Showing posts with label Cutting Losses. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Cutting Losses. Show all posts

Friday, October 20, 2017

What the FAQs : Cut vs Trail



Disclaimer : The post you are about to read is my personal opinion and may not necessarily represent the truth of others. This is my truth and you are free to disagree with me. 




3. What is the difference between cutting losses and executing trail stops? How and when do you set these?

In a nutshell, trail stops are there to preserve your gains while cut points are there to protect your capital.

By now, you've probably noticed how I do things in tranches. Because executing your buys and sells in tranches lessens your impact on price swings.  

When cutting, I make sure I have two cut points: the first cut point is within the 2-3% range where I lighten up positions, and yes tax and commissions are included in this computation. The 2nd is my maximum cut point of -5% which means that if my position reaches or falls below this level, I cut ALL my positions regardless of the time of day - this rule applies to ALL my trade setups.


"Ayaw nyo hintayin yung closing sir? Baka tumaas pa! Why not sell on the bounce?"


What if it doesn't? Always expect the worst case scenario.



 "Pwede ba sa 20ma ilagay yung cut point?"

Never confuse a trail stop for a cut loss point. Here's an example of what can possibly happen if you do.



-5% vs -18%

 When my cut levels are hit, I make sure that by the end of the day, I have no positions left. Why? Because whenever you violate your rules, it damages your trading psyche. Imagine if you held on to the loss for the night or drag it on for days and months. You'd have a hard time consoling and convincing yourself if what you did was right. And trust me, this is going to mercilessly torment you.

"Should you have cut? Would it go higher? Maybe if I break my rules just this one time..."




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As for trailing stops, I usually have two sets. One for moving averages and another for Darvas - this is for me to maximize the potentials of both worlds. 

Assuming that my average entry price (AEP) is already far away from the current price, only then will I set my MA trail stop. I usually do this when my positions are at least 10% distance from my designated MA stop. For example:




Having an AEP equal to your MA stop is impractical. If you do this, I won't be surprised if you say "Pera na, naging bato pa!" 




So here are two alternatives that I frequently use in setting stops. The first is set just several flucs below previous closing price. So if MAC's previous closing was 19.2, then I'll set my stops at 19.1. The second is set on the nearest darvas support. Sometimes, much of your profits get eaten on this stop, but if you're banking on the possibility of a continuation since you're following the trend, you might just get more out of the trade. So carefully weigh your odds.



If you owned this port, what would you do?




In both scenarios of cutting and executing trail stops, whenever I'm loaded with volume and have a hard time selling intraday, I always sell my final tranche during the matching of prices EOD since that's where bulk of the buyers show up. If the last traded price was at 19.2, I'll sagasa sell 10-20 flucs down.   


As a final reminder,




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Related posts on Cutting and Setting Trails
(Please do post on the comments section the links I've missed)

http://zeefreaks.blogspot.com/2014/11/trading-101-art-of-cutting-losses.html
http://zeefreaks.blogspot.com/2012/10/apm-rise-of-borg.html





Wednesday, April 6, 2016

Emotions of A High Risk Trader



It was Closing time in the Markets of April 5th 2016. This was my first time in my Trading career to experience a 7 Digit Loss in a Day. Lucky me right? 

"How do you feel? Are you okay?" 
People ask.

I'm fine. It's weird I know. I should be feeling something. Pain. Depression. Sadness. But none of these emotions are present. 


"Eh ganyan ka naman talaga noong simula pa! Manhid!"
*Plays Pusong Bato In Background*

It wasn't always like this. And like everyone else who learned this craft, I also had my fair share of emotions - Happily jumping off my chair when I see huge gains in my port from super stocks. Then cry and sleep in heartache after a few trading days, as those gains get eaten up by a series of losses. Believe me, It's normal. 

Learning is a process. It takes time. And the stock market isn't something easily mastered. Don't believe people in social media who tell you trading is easy money, people who tell you all the good things about the markets without disclosing the risks. And especially people who don't talk about managing losses and emotions. 

These people who seem to be always right about everything and give you this illusion that everyone is profiting from the market but you, is a lie. Because no one is immune from the Markets.

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I look at the Stock Market as a game - the gains and losses in my account are just numbers. There are good days and there are bad days. Today was a bad day. 


And that's all there is to it. Moping around and giving in to negativity wouldn't help bring back what I've lost now would it? This experience just means I need to refine my system so this kind of damage would less likely to occur in the future.

It's simple discipline of the trade.

So how do I manage to kill my emotions in Trading aside from re aligning my perspective? 

Simple. 

"Study and Practice." 

Here's a link that could emphasize on that.

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In ZFT, we have a ritual called "The Purge" where we rid ourselves of all noise that could affect our trading decisions. This noise could be in the form of trading buddies, stock groups, gurus, subscriptions, disclosures, news, rumors, etc.. The process helps us re align our focus and better ourselves. If you are having trouble with noise, Try purging.




Many people fail fast in trading because of ignorance or lack of a better system. Selling plays a bigger part in trading than buying. And cutting losses is the first system every aspiring trader should master.

For everyone can buy with confidence.
But only few can sell with dignity.



Monday, December 14, 2015

Trading and War



"When the market speaks, we listen."





A few weeks ago I started accumulating a potential super play. 
With its setup and liquidity and everything else taken into
 consideration, I decided to go for the trade.

ALL IN.

Of course It wouldn't be all in one day. Certain parameters must be
 set and confirmed. We enter a trade because we believe it will 
show us a profit. But even with a bullish bias, I keep a level mind.
 Before I enter, I know my stops.


Unfortunately for me today, the 
market has spoken against my bias.



And I listen.



If the stock rallies and I get whipped, it's fine. 
I can always buy back.


Trading is like war. 





It does not determine who is right... only who is left.



Friday, November 28, 2014

Trading 101 : The Art of Cutting Losses



Losing in stocks is like having a bad relationship you want to end.
 But for some sentimental reason, you just can't.

Because...





Yeah Right...

And soon, you find yourself drained mentally  and physically by all
 the emotional baggage,. You could have let go and ended it. 
But no! you think to yourself:

"But it's already too late."

Or

"There's still hope!"

When you start chanting these words in your mind. Your port 
 might end up like the ports of two Basura fund managers 
that I happen to stumble upon somewhere.



Specimen A 




Specimen B 





Are you in a similar position? 


I'm sure the stocks in these ports didn't  become the vile 
beasts that they are overnight. So if you find yourself in a bad
position, sit back and evaluate.


"Is it time to let go?"


Cutting is painful. But if you don't want to be sitting in a corner 
crying like a little bitch, then end it early.







Remember : 

There is no shame in taking a loss. 
So cut to trade another day.





Thursday, February 14, 2013

Trading 101 : Osmosis




On this post, I'd like to emphasize on money management and
 diversification when dealing with 3rd liners.

But before that....




This game is really kick ass!
Extremely Fun when played using Pads.
Here's a link if you want to try it out


Quick definition of Osmosis.

Definition taken from : http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/

Totally related to trading right?
Well.. not really.. But if you played the game, 
you'll get what I mean. Hopefully. Hahahaha



Anyways, 

When buying 3rd liners, assuming the chart 
is good and all, make sure you study its liquidity.  
You don't want to be buying something you can't sell.

So Ask yourself this question:
"If i put in X amount of money in stock Y, 
would I be able to sell it with ease on the same day?"

If your answer is YES, then you're one step 

ready to make that trade.



Moving on...


I usually keep 1 to 4 Trending Stocks - all with almost the same trade value. 
And when a stock is ready for profit taking, I sell all, if not some of it and 
transfer the funds to the remaining three stocks or add to a new stock position.

Sometimes I go over 4 stocks, but when I do, 
I switch and sell the weakest of my holdings and go 
back to the original 4 or less.. 

Focus is extremely important. 

Just imagine if lets say, you have 10 basuras in your port,
all with equal value, then suddenly a wild bear appears! 



"Imma eat yea alive biotch!"

And the worst part is, your broker... let's say.. just out of total "randomness"  
House 203 would have one of those "stroke moments" during market panics.

What do you do?


Imagine the pain...


So as much as possible, keep or buy only what you can manage.


"Okay Zee Enough with the talk". 
I get it. You want results.

Here ya go...



This is the Unshaded Version of 


Port as of 1.20.2012


Port as of 1.24.2012


Port as of 1.25.2012



Port as of 1.26.2012

 Port as of 1.27.2012


 Port as of 1.30.2012


 Port as of 1.31.2012




Here are my other trading rules:

On Cutting Losses:
Don't let a loss reach -4%
Cut before it reaches that level.

On Taking Profits:
There are no Target Prices,
Only Trailing Stops.

On Trading A stock:
Trade with bias. If a stock does not 
move according to your bias, Sell.

I also get this question a lot, So i'll just Include it here:
"What is my average holding period?"
4 Trading days. Or until a stock's uptrend snaps.



And If I'm dead sure of a killer trade? 
I never hesitate to go All-In!






Happy Valentines Everyone.