On this post, I'd like to emphasize on money management and
diversification when dealing with 3rd liners.
diversification when dealing with 3rd liners.
But before that....
This game is really kick ass!
Extremely Fun when played using Pads.
Here's a link if you want to try it out
Quick definition of Osmosis.
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| Definition taken from : http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ |
Totally related to trading right?
Well.. not really.. But if you played the game,
you'll get what I mean. Hopefully. Hahahaha
Anyways,
When buying 3rd liners, assuming the chart
is good and all, make sure you study its liquidity.
You don't want to be buying something you can't sell.
So Ask yourself this question:
"If i put in X amount of money in stock Y,
would I be able to sell it with ease on the same day?"
If your answer is YES, then you're one step
ready to make that trade.
Moving on...
I usually keep 1 to 4 Trending Stocks - all with almost the same trade value.
And when a stock is ready for profit taking, I sell all, if not some of it and
transfer the funds to the remaining three stocks or add to a new stock position.
Sometimes I go over 4 stocks, but when I do,
I switch and sell the weakest of my holdings and go
back to the original 4 or less..
Focus is extremely important.
Just imagine if lets say, you have 10 basuras in your port,
all with equal value, then suddenly a wild bear appears!
And the worst part is, your broker... let's say.. just out of total "randomness"
House 203 would have one of those "stroke moments" during market panics.
What do you do?
Imagine the pain...
So as much as possible, keep or buy only what you can manage.
"Okay Zee Enough with the talk".
I get it. You want results.
And when a stock is ready for profit taking, I sell all, if not some of it and
transfer the funds to the remaining three stocks or add to a new stock position.
Sometimes I go over 4 stocks, but when I do,
I switch and sell the weakest of my holdings and go
back to the original 4 or less..
Focus is extremely important.
Just imagine if lets say, you have 10 basuras in your port,
all with equal value, then suddenly a wild bear appears!
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"Imma eat yea alive biotch!" |
And the worst part is, your broker... let's say.. just out of total "randomness"
House 203 would have one of those "stroke moments" during market panics.
What do you do?
Imagine the pain...
So as much as possible, keep or buy only what you can manage.
"Okay Zee Enough with the talk".
I get it. You want results.
Here ya go...
This is the Unshaded Version of
Port as of 1.20.2012
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Port as of 1.24.2012
Port as of 1.25.2012
Port as of 1.26.2012
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Port as of 1.27.2012
Port as of 1.30.2012
Port as of 1.31.2012
Here are my other trading rules:
On Cutting Losses:
Don't let a loss reach -4%
Cut before it reaches that level.
On Taking Profits:
There are no Target Prices,
Only Trailing Stops.
On Trading A stock:
Trade with bias. If a stock does not
move according to your bias, Sell.
I also get this question a lot, So i'll just Include it here:
I also get this question a lot, So i'll just Include it here:
"What is my average holding period?"
4 Trading days. Or until a stock's uptrend snaps.
And If I'm dead sure of a killer trade?
I never hesitate to go All-In!
Happy Valentines Everyone.
Happy Valentines Everyone.
Sir Zee, no second thoughts before cutting losses?
ReplyDeleteNone. Cut without mercy.
DeleteThanks for sharing.
DeleteBest Regards From Team,
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how do you keep the discipine of trading just 4 stocks when your stocks are not moving and the other stocks are?
ReplyDeleteMake sure you only buy trending stocks.
DeleteDa tren is your pren ^^
Deletehow do you find it? like example Geo. It wasnt trending but the other day it went up then today and yesterday you cant find any action
ReplyDeleteHere ya go: http://zeefreaks.blogspot.com/2011/09/basura-plays.html
DeleteUse it well.
sir, tama ba intepretation ko for WIN
ReplyDeletebought on 01.20 nega
sold before 1.24
bought on 01.25 and sold on the same day?
GREAT POST and good profit from LMG ;). Btw, what made you pick lmg? do you trade full time?
I'm not so sure. I don't remember the Details.
DeleteAnd yes. I trade full time. :3
Great post. Thanks for sharing that. When you said you never hesitate to go all-in, do you sell your other 3 positions and consolidate it in that 1 stock even if the other are trending strongly as well? Also when you play basuras, should I consider if there is a story behind the price movement or I just need to look at the charts?
ReplyDeleteYes. "All in" as in sell everything to buy just one fast stock. Just like APM when it was just starting. Re basuras, never listen to market noise (rumors/news) it just clouds your judgement.
DeleteNag all in ka sa APM? Im sure you made a killing there. So you just look at the charts? Alright thanks cuz I dont hear much of rumors anyway so reading the charts and applying your strategy suits me fine. Cheers!
DeleteYes and Yes. Happy hunting ;)
Deletesir zee, how do you set stops? sorry sa noob question.
ReplyDelete-ged
Setting stops - you can do this mentally - Not sure if there are online brokers here with that feature.
ReplyDeleteMaybe this could come in handy: http://zeefreaks.blogspot.com/2012/10/apm-rise-of-borg.html
Thank you for the link Sir Zee. I tried searching what you mean by borg plays before in google but didn't find it. Careless of me not to backtrack through your previous posts! I couldn't help but giggle after I read the Borg's ever famous line. :D
ReplyDeleteSir, how do you predict the stocks? which is more reliable if you're a day trader, fibonacci or support and resistance? and lastly when do you sell if taking profits? Newbie here. Thank you!!
ReplyDelete^ Combination of the two + MA (moving averages). I sell when my stops are hit. You might want to read my previous posts.
ReplyDeleteSorry for sounding stupid, If you see a stock that has a good balance sheet and pays dividend but is dropping, should i not enter it because the company is earning? I mean that is when the price of the stock is low for you enter?
ReplyDeletePatrick, I post this as a Trader and not an Investor. If I WERE an investor then I might just buy stocks in your said parameters.
ReplyDeleteGood Evening po Sir Zee,
ReplyDeleteI believe you are still using COL Financial as you broker.
Do you use the Traditional Broker?
Or do you just use a browser in buying and selling stocks?
The "NO stop loss/ cut loss" is the only thing really hindering me in trading basuras.
COLFinancial network stability. Recently it is very lag. Upon hitting the buttons, minsan, wala na ubos na volume.hehe so cry na lang ako sa gilid. LoL By the way, I am using Chrome/Opera/Firefox with Globe (these could be a problem as well regarding lags).
Or do you have any tips and tricks for "faster" execution (aside from just getting a traditional broker)?
I hope I am not asking questions that are "secrets" to your trading success.hehe I am pretty sure you are protecting it carefully :)
Maraming salamat po Sir Zee! :)
I have one account in Timson. But my bulk funds are still with COL.
DeleteFor me, you don't need to really have that fast of a connection unless you're trading basuras or if the price of your stock is nearing it's stop. You just have to think 5-10 steps ahead of the crowd.
Maraming salamat sa pag reply po sir Zee :)
DeleteI never thought you would reply to me this quickly considering I am just a nobody. LoL! :p
Actually my plan is to trade basuras and apply what you have written here. Still waiting for COL supports reply regarding my question about the fees if I opt to go for there traditional brokers (the Cut Loss is really important to me as Globe sometimes is slow, Colfinancial as well and most of all - power interruptions in my area).
I am currently reading your blog from September 2011 and I am still at Feb 11, 2013.
I am taking down notes (THANK YOU VERY MUCH! dami kung natutunan! (= )
Honestly, got me inspired when you said I read from your FB "if you are just hardworking enough and read my blog post - you can trade the way I trade". Not really exactly the lines you said. That is why I am doing this. Thank you po Sir!
The Trader Investor sir wag ka bibili ng stocks ng GLOBE para makabawi ka sa kanila sa di pagbibigay ng magandang service sa area nyo 😂😂😂
DeleteSir what do you mean by trade with bias?
ReplyDeleteLooks like PHES was a high conviction stock for you at that time. What happened eventually?
ReplyDeleteMy cutpoint was hit.
Deletea.k.a. jockeys shaking out freeloaders, is there such a thing?
DeleteSir, can you elaborate what you mean by "make sure you study its liquidity". Sorry for questionaing I'm a newbie.Can you give an example?
ReplyDeleteLiquidity is the volume traded. If it is liquid, that means lots of funds and people trade it. If it is illiquid, it means less people trade it (and usually has high volatility)
DeleteThis is what I'm looking for. The significant relationship of volatility and liquidity. Now I know that if the stock is illiquid there is high volatility. Liquidity on the otherhand is the ease in entering and exiting the trade. Hirap ng naman na pagbumili ka at wala kang mapagbebentahan. Tapos ikaw pa ang dahilan ngm pagtaas ng stock.
DeleteSir this is my favorite post in your blog. I am amazed how you move your funds around to make a killing. Brilliant strategy. Hoping to learn your technique. Still on practice mode at the moment. Thank you sir for the inspiration.
ReplyDeletecongrats Boss ZEE!!! no 1 ka na sa Trading Cup ng Investagrams!!! 09-28-2017
ReplyDeletengayun palng ako nag start sa trading, learning alot from old post, and was able to attend a zft session. Thank you po
ReplyDeleteThank you for imparting your ideas with us. I am now doing the same. Medyo naging cautious lang ako after masunog long time ago. Now, I'm back after 2 yrs. Hungrier but cautious. Lurking in your wall learning your ways and unlearning the old ideas I have.
ReplyDeleteSalamat
Hello po Sir, Zeefreaks!
ReplyDeletenot sure po kung nashare nyo na ever, pero nagiinvest po ba kayo sa blue chips? or stick lang talaga kayo sa trading with 2nd and/or 3rd liners?
meron po kasi akong JFC and ALI currently.. balak ko po habang nag-aaral ng trading, hold ko lang sila. then kapag po sobrang confident na ko to swing/day trade, iniisip ko po kung dapat ba ilet go ung blue chips.
Thank you po in advance for answering. ^_^
boss idol na idol parin tlga ang blog mo 2019 na to date :)))
ReplyDeleteBos Zee Salamat sa pag share ng Know how mo. Newbie lang ako kaya pasalamat talaga ako na nakita ko ang Vlog mo lalo na yung ZFT at planning to enroll na din sa Blueprint course nyo.
ReplyDeleteI have just read your post today sir. I wanna try the game . but link cant be found. any site to open that game? i dont know the name of the game kasi sir. hehe. wanna give it a shot though
ReplyDeletehttps://www.osmos-game.com/
Deletesir i noticed your average price differs from january 24 and 25 sa AAA even though same lang din ang total shares mo?. nag iiba rin po ba yan based on market price? thank u po sa sagot
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