Wednesday, April 13, 2016

Snapshots of A High Risk Trader


As far as I can remember, I've been sharing my portfolio snapshots since my newbie days in Financemanila. And this was way before I was taking in students and way before Facebook Stockmarket groups became a thing. 




(This was the Day I decided to start recording my portfolio every end of day.)

I did so because I wanted to start a culture of openness. I was moved by two anonymous bloggers COM (Color Of Money) and Cliff The Investor (This guy's blog is no more) who relentlessly shared their insights and snapshots every single day to back up their studies and who they are in the markets. They walked the talk.




You see, a lot of people would claim that they traded this or that. And during those times, if you were able to make a killing on stocks that made parabolic moves you'd be respected and followed. Of course you want to know how they were able to do it, so you follow them. And those snapshots are one big help in opening your mind to the possibilities of the markets and dissecting the mind of the trader - Where they entered and where they closed positions.

But the funny thing is, when you ask most of the gurus out there for proof of records, they can't even show it. Kahit shaded di pwede? Did they really trade the stock or are they just claiming sh!t?

Why? I wondered. 




Now here's a question. What is your litmus test to know if a person is legit or not?

Here comes a guru who was able to buy and hold NOW or BRN this quarter below 1.00. That's impressive. But how about the superstocks last year? And the year before that? I don't know about you but for me, consistent results backed up by records would always trump anything else. So don't be impressed by jackpot stocks. 

And like what we always say in ZFT,

"Pics or didn't happen."


Oh. I almost forgot. Here's a fictional snapshot.



23 comments:

  1. missed cliff the investor blog suddenly...

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  2. i used to read that blog also, i remember it suddenly when i read this blog... the new cliff ... is zeefreak blog :-)

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  3. Salamat zee for the being the beacon of light sa mga naghahanap ng trading mentorship and how to identify legitimates versus sa mga peperahan lang sila. A rather good example of that mentor NOT showing profitability is the high and mighty Jitendra Mojica. The guy is gutsy and "a veteran" some people say I will give him that pero there is way youll know kung profitable mga trade niya or not other than believing the very words coming out of his BoH group. You pay muna syempre para lang to validate if all the hype is true. I have nothing against sa mga may fee pero syempre at least give it back to your followers the encompassing truth behind your claims. For christ sake daig pa siya nung mga ibang nagseshare for free ng trading ideas such as Newtoys and Pixiutrades na may proof of profitability from the calls they are making.

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  4. Ive been with BoH for six months at sad to say pula parin ang port ko. Newbie po at madali pong malito here kaya im looking for some guidance from the mentor but sad to say again lagi po siyang repulsive at not accommodating kapag nagtatanong na po ako while trading. Medyo naiirita na po ako duon sa trade what you see na lagi niya binabanggit. I feel na nawalan ng sense na nagbayad ako kasi di rin naman supportive. Well i guess some people are right lalo na pag di mo alam kung siya ba ay kumikita o hinde. And very sad to say again in the event mapagdudahan ka sa BoH shouting out your frustrations, iboboot out ka with no warning kaya ingat na ingat po ako.I just want na sulitin yung binayad ko sayang naman kasi baka sakaling makatulong. I guess eto ang lesson for me na huwag basta magtiwala to anybody kahit siya pa ay nakapaghandle ng isang investment fund na 40mio US at veteran daw. There should be at least pruweba ba kaya ka niyang tulungan

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    1. get booted out already. if its not working then leave or just ignore for now. Look for someone who would teach what to see.

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    2. Get booted out? Paano naman ung binayad ko? Ive been diligently studying all the materials theyve been providing un nga lang me attitude problem si Jiego kaya hindi ko mapagconnect sinasabi siya. I paid in good faith and i will demand for services that is due to me. Sorry if i got pissed off nasa BoH ka din ba?

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    3. Sa BOH, magbabayad ka ng anim na libo pero walang buy/sell signal ikaw pa rin bahala, magbabayad ka pa ng libo libo para sa Technical Analysis Webinar na sobrang basic at libo libo din para sa Advance TA webinar pero puro basic ang laman kahit tingnan mo sa course outline. Tapos bebentahan ka ng excel file sa halagang 40K. Beware sa mga papasok yung 6K mo kulang na kulang pa yan.

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    4. wow kala ko 2k a year lng yung premium nila..sunod sunuran ka lng sa mga reco nila forever dependent ka sa kanila plus regular income un sa kanila forever ka magbabayad ng premium wahaha. Glad i found this blogs after backreading lahat ng topic ni master Zee few days back lang ako nagbasa pala nabawi ko na yung - 10% sa port. ko. and guess what dko na kelangan magbasa ng mga newsletter ni COL or kung anu anu pang Funnymental reco. after reading all his topic.. sa chart na lang ako tumitingin. Mas maganda nga ipost ni Master Zee tong comment ko na to huehue..again A big thanks to you Master Zee

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    5. From someone who's been a member of BOH, better to cut your losses.

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    6. Your damn right Bolt Roar. The entire subscription thing with BoH is a freaking mistake and i should cut my losses asap. Totoo yang bebentahan ka nung excel file na ang mahal di mo pa sure kung magiging useful maybe there is no way to know that since magtatanong ka kay Jiego aangasan ka pa. Tinanong ko nga sarili ko di pa nga ako kumikita sa mga word of mouth niya at mga binibigay na chart bebentahan na kaagad ako?

      Jiego always brag to newcomers credentials niya with that BPI Odyssey funds pero sariling port hindi maipakita at maipagmalaki na his trading processes is really profitable. I cant imagine if you have handled 40mio dollars na funds why cant you show yours na hindi man lang aabot ng 40 million pesos? Maybe thats the catch there hindi niya napalago ung sa dati niyang trabaho kaya wala na siya ngayon doon at trying hard to grow his personal fund at the expense of other people. Tsk magbabayad din yan sa mga panloloko niya sooner or later.

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    7. Ang mga tamad at hindi nagiisip wala talagang mararating.

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    8. Madami nagsimula sa BOH na pula ang port, at sa awa ng magandang trading process ng BOH eh laya na ang karamihan sa mga bobong trade na minana nila mula sa reco ni TH, reco ng kung sino man, personal na pagkakamali o hype ng iba pang groups. And as a member of BOH i disagree na di nagpapakita si senyor jiego ng port, he did shared his port snap but not always. If you are really a member of BOH and not just an ignorant hater, you should have seen his recent port that showed a successful trade. and he also have a decent size of port that could match up zee. but the point is kung tamad ka nung sumali sa BOH, kay zee, iba pang matinong groups at puro reklamo ka sa buhay wala kang pupuntahan kundi sa kangkungan ni tony herbosa. LOL -pahabol, kumakain din kami ng charts sa BOH pero may toppings na, IYKWIM

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    9. I think this is getting out of hand, so good luck to wherever group you are connected to. At the end of the day its the food in the table that matters, let's just cross swords on the market.

      Peace.

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    10. If you're a newbie and looking for a quick fix (yung tipong pagkasali pa lang eh gusto profitable na agad agad), then you won't thrive inside BOH. Spoon feeding is a big no no in the group. Hence, no explicit buy-sell signals. Everything is DIY, especially trade planning and execution. And as to the "inaangasan pag nagtatanong" issue, one probable cause I could think of is maybe they asked lazy questions like "anyare", "what's your take/thoughts on stock XXX?", "Okay pa po ba bumili/humabol?", etc. Sir Jiego gets irritated if you ask questions like that, lalong lalo na eh nasa rules naman yan, na kasama sa starter kit (sent to each newcomer upon joining). If your question can be answered if you just googled it yourself first, then don't expect the man to be nice, hehe.. Okay na sakin ang masungit/maangas (with the intention to make you an independent thinker), kesa sa mabait nga pero di ka naman natutulungang mag-improve.

      I know this sounds like a biased statement from a member. So better ask me again next month if I still have good words for the man and the group (which I know I will). Peace out! ��

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      If you're too dependent and lack self-awareness, you will find fault even to the best groups out there. Know thy self first.

      - saling ketket

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  5. A Big thank to Zee for sharing & having this blog. dami ko natutunan dito mas may laman pa blogs nia kesa dun mga may premium. sabi nga ni Zee chart sa umaga, sa tanghali at gabi..

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  6. Been also with BoH for 6 months and did not profit on what i expected. It was not working for me so i ended it. Thoroughly read ZF's blog on the essentials and for sure you'll profit. Because I'm making profit and will make profit. ZFT's are approachable and are really willing to mentor on their spare time. Chat ka lang sa kanila on FB and hopefully they'll reply. Di madamot ung mga un :) Mas okay na tong you learn on your own by reading ZF's blog and check on the support and willingness of the ZFT's. I recommend this blog and surely if you'll eat charts by breakfast lunch, dinner tsaka midnight snack, magkaka materialize ung studies mo.

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  7. Grabe income ng boss nyo pala, pati youtube ads at pagiging Forex Introducing Broker pinagkakakitaan kayo. Syempre sya pinakauna pumusisyon sa mga stocks kaya sya rin pinakamalaki kita. Aba talo pa sila Tonyo! Pati jologs na Bukaka pinatos!

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    1. so si spyfrat jologs din?
      ikaw ang jologs!
      magsama kayo ng tonyo mo!

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    2. ikaw nagsabi nyan. gigols! nah i hate that P#&#* Tonyo and his gang, obvious naman na nanloloko lang e..

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    3. ang cute cute kaya ni sir spy, gigols!

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  8. who is better? BOH? ZF? TAP? Tsupitero?.... nah, it's not the sword but the hand who yields it. Learning comes from the heart, not from outside. Kahit sino mentor mo pag gusto mo talaga matuto, magagawa mo. Greatest traders learn on their own.

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